Wing chun vs other martial arts?

I am currently taking wing chun and i notice that there are many upsides and downsides. I am now questioning if this is the right martial art for me. I don’t like the fact that it is not respected by other arts and is not really meant for MMA. I am looking for an art with practical self defense, good training, a combination of striking and grappling, and a good philosophy But i really need an art for self defense. I was thinking about JKD what does everyone else think. If you cant answer this question answer why wing chun apparently sucks?

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  1. I personally think and know that wing chun is an excellent art and the only reason I don’t study it in a class is that I cant find one without block bookings ie: £50 + per month and the only one I found was £7 pay as you go but including my bus fare is £10.50 per class ,as you should do at least two classes a week its far too expensive for me.

    Don’t give up on wing chun as if you can afford it do it and you’ll gain the benefits from it as its practical,straight forward no nonsense self defence.

    I currently do Chi Tai once a week at £5 as Thats all I can afford but the instructor is excellent and has opened my eyes as I have seen many jiu-jitsu techniques within it.

    Best wishes and good luck :)***

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  3. You are making a massive overgeneralization about the so-called ‘ineffectiveness’ of Wing Chun. I practice JKD Concepts and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and I have sparred with Wing Chun practitioners who punch, kick, and trap with blinding speed. Wing Chun is a very effective striking and trapping art if you have a good instructor. Every Wing Chun loyalist reading this knows exactly what I’m talking about. Wing Chun is no joke. Skilled Wing Chun practitioners are dangerous and they know it.

    I don’t like to compare one style to another, so I won’t compare Wing Chun to MMA. If you want to add grappling to what you’re already doing with Wing Chun, then fine, but don’t knock Wing Chun, because the style is very street effective.

  4. hey man i also myself am in a wing chun school and trust me they will never end for me!! people disrespect wing chun mainly because A they don’t understand the system because it takes a very long time to understand, it takes around about 6 months to no enough wing chun to use a basic defence against some on but once you have it you’ve got it and will always be able to develop it and B because of jealousy e.g. they want the moves with have and know that it will work better then they ones that they are learning and I’m not saying its the best Martial art ever because ever one has there own taste in there style of a martial art but wing chun is a street art its not for fighting in the ring its for the streets and that’s were it should Really be used but i guys its up to you where and when you do it!!! thanks and in my opinion stick with wing chun

  5. wing chun is good, and its one of the most well formed out martial arts.

    but its also a peaceful art, like wushu. so yeah, its not meant for MMA.

    jkd has a lot of aspects from wing chun, since bruce lee practiced in it.

    if your doing intense training and wing chun, you already know how to fight/defend yourself.

    if i had a jkd or wing chun school anywhere near me id definitely go, cuz im just used to boxing kind of training, and i need lots of leg work. my grappling is natural. if you leave wing chun, id suggest jkd, as it already is mma, proper punching, grappling, kicking, etc.

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    Boxing is a sport, but it isn’t JUST a sport… You’re asking for generalizations, so let me preface it with this statement: speed, power, conditioning, and applicability vary from person to person; the way these are trained and the emphasis they are given also varies from school to school. A really good Wing Chun school is better than a bad boxing gym. Of course, the reverse is also true. On to the generalizations- “1. Can an average WC artist punch harder than an average Boxer? (I think no, but then again, i want experienced ppl answering this)” The potential for hard punches exist, but WC strategy, as explained to me, is to break the opponent’s structure and keep him off-balance with constant pressure. Thus, the chain-punches common in Wing Chun are designed less as knockout blows and more as fast, constant little impacts for rushing over the attacker. If you’re talking in terms of damage, a boxing combination is designed to do more damage than chain-punching. “2. is an average WC artist more physically fit than an average boxer?” “Average” is a loaded expression, but I’ll answer by saying that boxing generally emphasizes a higher level of fitness than WC. Even in its tamest version, “boxercise” is still a tremendous workout. Wing Chun isn’t known for this. Of the classes I’ve attended, physical fitness was not emphasized as much as “structure” and “form”. While there are parts of it that will make you break a sweat (Chi Sau is particularly demanding on the shoulders), if you wanted to get into shape, you’d be better off at a boxing gym. “3. Who can throw more strikes?” Depends on the individual, but Wing Chun is designed to deliver a high volume of strikes (chain-punches) that follow a straight line and require minimum recoil. Boxing punches generally require more space to execute and may or may not have an ephasis on speed. Certainly, the same person could chain-punch more times than they could throw a jab-cross combination in the same time frame. “4. Who can take a hit?” Again, it depends on the individual and how they train. However, when full-contact fighters (like boxers) meet those who don’t train full-contact, they tend to perform better. Heavy sparring gets one accustomed to getting hit and hitting back. My observation is that this training is less common in WC schools. “what about self defense? i know a boxer and a WC artist can defend themselves very well in a street fight setting, but who is more effective?” In general, WC fighters have more tools to work with, but boxers tend to train their tools more effectively. The emphasis on fitness and the harder level of contact in sparring would lead me to recommend boxing for someone looking to defend themself, though I would suggest supplementing it with a martial art that addressed self-defense situations in class. Boxing is great once punches start flying and the fight is still standing, but things like avoidance, evasion, weapons defense, and grappling defense aren’t really going to be covered in boxing. Wing Chun is OK for these but will not address them as much or as well, generally, as a class emphasizing pure self-defense. With that said, Wing Chun includes kicks, standing grappling (including sweeps and locks), and non-punching techniques like elbow strikes, chops, and finger jabs. It just seems to me that, although I respect the potential and a lot of the ideas of Wing Chun, it would produce better results for the “average” student if they sparred with more realism than is commonly found.

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In-depth study of Wing Chun

Today’s topic of discussion is indeed a real trigger. MANY opinions and statements have been made about Wing Chun ever since the mists of time.The following commentary is particularly interesting since it does a real in-depth study of Wing Chun, distinguishing between traditional and innovative Wing Chun.The video you have just seen is taken from the following youtube channel: Brutal Tv. Remember to check out this channel since it makes great content without lowering its standards. We also allowed ourselves to take inspiration and resume some of the parts that have been already said in the video.

Innovative Wing Chun

First of all, what even is innovative Wing Chun you may ask. The concept is pretty original and it doesn’t necessarily distinguish between various types of Wing Chun instead, it marks a difference between the approach that different people have when it comes to training this martial art.By stating “innovative Wing Chun” the author emphasizes the open-mindedness of many Wing Chun practitioners and masters that are not afraid to expand the system to new challenges and problems. Maybe it’s easier to understand this idea from the opposite point of view, which for instance would be Traditional Wing Chun. The author is not criticizing Wing Chun itself but rather the people who train it in a dogmatic and (in this way traditional) no-space-for-change way. A great example is given in the video: time passes by and nothing is left untouched. So, also in martial arts, you can encounter new techniques, bigger and stronger (or armed) opponents…the list can go on. So how can a traditional martial art manage something that it wasn’t meant for?

Wing Chun is meant to be upgraded

The point is not either Wing Chun works or not, but rather HOW to make it work.What we found really interesting is that the author suggests that traditional Wing Chun has the keys to fully expanding the system.You see, we didn’t mean to be harsh on traditional Wing Chun 🙂 However, most of the time many practitioners train with no regard for further development, and many times masters themselves believe that the system is perfect and complete to cope with any situation because of its effectiveness at close quarters. However, to quote the author, their lack of aptitude against grapplers and armed assailants reflects a problematic actuality most martial arts have.

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Chinese MMA

No, we’re not going to speak about a new MMA which comes from China. Actually, the author of this video sees Wing Chun as the eastern MMA. It is clear that he has done some real in-depth study of Wing Chun, so for the next few sentences, we’re going to quote him directly.

“Innovative Wing Chun is one of the world’s most technically advanced and devastating forms of end-to-end combat. It is the original mixed martial art of China because of its western influence. Known as the Mercedes S class of the martial arts. It delivers abundance without excess and is explicitly designed to defeat other martial arts as well as stronger, bigger, and faster opponents. In addition, it is designed to defeat traditional or classical Wing Chun Itself.”

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Another important characteristic that distinguishes Wing Chun from other martial arts is the essential idea behind every Wing Chun movement. Unlike most of today’s popular systems, such as Karate, Taekwondo, and Kung Fu which block first and only then attack, Wing Chun emphasizes self-defense focusing on methods that allow deflection and attack in the same movement. In fact, the system is not based on animal movements but rather on human biomechanics, prioritizing the straight line and fast direct strikes.

The originality and effectiveness of this system, when trained properly, lies also in the fact that those movements which are trained relentlessly will become part of one’s automatic subconscious response.

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